Removing reverb in Pro Tools

Following on from my EQ matching experience here and here when I heard about a plug-in that might help just at the right time, I had a similar experience with some interview clips that had been recorded in a reverbant space.  Again I turned to the Digidesign User Conference for advice and found a relevant thread running on the Digidesign User Conference

The Solution

There were two main suggestions on this thread, one expensive and one cheap. The expensive one is the NML RevCon–RR plug-in from tacsystem.com  It is listed in their store at 123,900 Yen, which comes out at around £900, so I moved on to the other suggestion.

This was a plug-in not unsurprisingly called DVerb from SPL and is part of their MicroPlugs range (see fig 11). What’s more this plug-in won’t break the bank and there even a trial version anyway so you don’t have to risk anything!

Once downloaded there isn’t much to explain as to how to use it. There are only two controls, one controls the amount of reverb reduction and then other is to adjust the gain to compensate for any level changes.

Does this one work? The answer is again yes it does, I was able to get about 12 to 14 dB of reduction before it sounded odd. It came across as a multi-band expander and just as you can overdo it, when you use an expander, so you can overdo this little plug-in, but again as time is money.

Conclusion

This plug-in got me out of another little corner quickly and effectively and so I had another happy customer. I shelled out 59 Euros and bought the plug-in before the trial ran out so I can make more happy customers. Yes I could have used an expander, possibly the Waves C4 or the WaveArts multi-band dynamics plug-in and got a good result after some time messing about but as with the Repli-Q plug-in to have a simple plug-in that does the job quickly and well is invaluable.

Problem with Pro Tools session files not written to disk on last day of project

Had a scary problem earlier this week at BBC North with a Pro Tools system appearing not to write session files to the disk, either normal Saves or Save Session As or even Session File Backups.

Audio files, AudioSuite processed files and Fade Files all have been written to the drive so it doesn’t appear to be a permissions issue or a drive failing.

I did a search for all files created or modified yesterday and no session files came up, just the audio and fade files. It is as if Pro Tools was appearing to save but not actually writing the files to the disk.

I did a Deleted files scan of the drive with Data Resue 3, having taught it what ptf files look like, and found no recent copies of the session in question.

System is a G4 1.25 Mac Mini running Mac OS 10.4.x and Pro Tools 7.4LE with a 002R interface and all drives have Oxford Chipsets.

In researching the problem on the DUC I came across this post

We’re investigating this and see a few other web reports of this happening with other apps, so we’re looking at possible causes, including OS services that may play a part.
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Avid Audio Tech Support

I have subsequently done a full deep scan with Data Rescue 3, and having taught it .ptf session files, it found over 1000 session files on the drive. I opened the 500 sessions that were larger than the latest session on the drive (300k) and although I found about 10 session files from the project in question, they all preceded the latest session on the drive.  This to me confirms that Pro Tools never wrote the files to the drive during that last day.

Having satisfied myself I couldn’t retrieve anything from the drive, I then ran a benchmark test on the drive, which is a Seagate 2.5″ Momentus IDE drive in a MacPower case with Oxford chipset. I benchmarked it to a recent Seagate SATA 2.5″ drive and it compared very well. Then I used the Integrity Test in Drive Genius II, set to write 16M files in random write for 30 minutes, and it proved to be very reliable. Finally I completed a full surface scan with Drive Genius II and it found no bad blocks so I believe the drive to be in A1 condition.

iZotope updates and fixes

IZotope have announced updates to their plug-ins which fix a problem there was with Pro Tools 8.0.4. David Could – Product Manager for Audio Post Production, has posted on this thread in the Digidesign User Conference….

Today iZotope have released updated versions of a number of their plug-ins (Alloy, Ozone 4, Trash, RX, Spectron and Vinyl) that address the issues encountered in Pro Tools 8.0.4. The updates can be downloaded from iZotope’s website. see below for direct links.

There are also updates for the other iZotope plug-ins

For AudioSuite compatibility with Pro Tools 8.0.4, users of iZotope plug-ins should download the latest versions from the iZotope website:

Finally iZotope have announced that the update to the RX restoration plug-in and application is more than a fix…

iZotope RX 1.3 Product Update
We’ve been working hard to update RX and just added these new features:

  • 64-bit Audio Unit support for native operation in 64-bit Logic Pro 9.1 and later.
  • New peak finding feature will automatically locate exact peaks in the Spectrum Analyzer faster and more effectively than manual zoom. Learn more about the Spectrum Analyzer.
  • New shortcut to choose time selection bounds in the RX application: simply listen and press the [ and ] keys during playback to set selection start and end points.
  • Many minor fixes and performance enhancements.

Download the update

All good news folks.

EQ Matching in Pro Tools part 2

In part 1 I explained the challenge and a potential solution. In this part lets see if the solution delivers…

Once fully installed, I inserted an instance of Repli-Q in the session to see how well it would work in this situation.

This is how I had laid out the session. I put the reference take on one track and then the muffled take on another track. This is so I could adjust the EQ on the muffled track but still hear the reference file untreated. When making comparisons like this, don’t listen to short snatches of the reference, followed by the region you are treating, as you can easily get fooled into thinking things are better when they are not. I always listen to the full reference region and then a good chunk of the region to be treated to make sure I was going in the right direction, yes it took longer but was well worth it in the end.

So with Repli-Q in the session, I bypassed the EQ plug-in on the ‘muffled’ track and moved the reference region down onto the muffled track so I could switch from one to the other with Bias’s plug-in.

Learn once

Next I opened up the Repli-Q plug-in, selected the reference region, hit Play and then Learn Spectrum in the Repli-Q window, and let it play for as long as possible through the reference region.

Bias recommend that you should always start playing before you hit the Learn button so that Repli-Q doesn’t try to learn digital silence and the same at the end, so I clicked the Learn Spectrum again before hitting the Stop button in Pro Tools. Now I had a green trace on the graph that represented the ‘reference’ files signature.

When I saved the profile by hitting the Save Spectrum button the trace turned to yellow.

Learn Twice

Now I highlighted the muffled region, hit Play again, hit Learn Spectrum and let Repli-Q learn the signature for the region I needed to treat. Whilst it was learning I got a green trace together with the yellow trace presenting the reference file.

Again hitting the Learn button stopped the learning process, and I remembered to leave it run a long time to get a good average for the ‘muffled’ region’s profile. Having clicked the Learn Spectrum again the plug-in displayed then three traces. The yellow trace represented the profile for the reference region, and then two traces for the ‘muffled region, a green trace for the input profile and a blue trace for the output profile. Now I could adjust the amount of EQ added to the muffled region with the Matching slider. I found that as I slid the Matching slider from its default 50% down to 0%, the plug-in had no effect on the treated audio, through to 100% where the output profile was identical to the input profile and so the maximum EQ change was applied to the muffled region.

Graph to EQ

I found it much easier at this point to see this in action by changing the display from Graph to EQ.

I could then see the EQ that Repli-Q was applying to the muffled region to get it to match the reference region.

Does it work I hear you ask? Well yes it does, it produced a much more natural treated region than I had achieved with an EQ plug-in alone. But having listened to the treated version carefully I noticed that there was an increase in low frequency background noise and it was still not quite bright enough for my taste. However with Repli-Q’s EQ curve pointing me in the right direction, and with the help of an EQ plug-in, in my case an instance of Waves Renaissance EQ 4, I applied a low frequency shelving to compensate for the increase in low frequencies shown above and also a fairly tight parametric boost centred around 7k to add to what Repli-Q was already doing.

With the two together I had a very close match and all done in about 10 minutes. All I needed to do was to render the treated files so they were the same length as the originals to make it as easy as possible for the video editor to replace the muffled regions with the treated ones. To do this, I copied the settings across from the real time plug-in to the corresponding AudioSuite version so I could process the files and then disable the real time plug-in to save computer processing power. Finally I send the processed file back to the client using the Sharing function on my Mobile Me iDisk.

Conclusion

The Repli-Q did a much better job, than I did, especially once I had helped Repli-Q along the way with a bit of extra targeted EQ and at around $149 for the single plug-in was well worth the money. Yes I could have persevered with EQ and matched it better but to have a simple to use tool that produced a very good result quickly is well worth it, after all time is money!

Working on the new series of The Choice on Radio 4

Yesterday I started work editing the new series of The Choice for Radio 4.

Michael Buerk interviews people who have made life-altering decisions and talks them through the whole process, from the original dilemma to living with the consequences.

I can tell you its going to be another excellent engaging series produced by Dawn Bryan for BBC Religion & Ethics but as yet, I cannot say who is on, what the stories are this year, as nothing has been announced. As soon as it is, I will keep you posted.

EQ Matching in Pro Tools part 1

The problem

A client had recorded a video voiceover but for some unexplainable reason several of the takes were ‘muffled’. They sent an example and a reference file over via ftp and I had a listen and sure enough it was muffled but it didn’t sound like just an EQ problem but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, I thought that the muffled takes may have been recorded as an mp3 but apparently not, it was one complete session. I was able to match them with EQ reasonably but I thought it would be worth doing a search on the Digidesign User Conference and found a very interesting current thread. It was all about this very subject. Don’t you just love when that happens?

The Solution

The first suggestion was to use Dynamic Spectrum Manager from Pro Audio DSP with the advice to use sparingly and then a number of posts outlining how hard it was to get DSM to function as an EQ Matching application as it is described by Pro Audio DSP as a “groundbreaking adaptive techniques to capture both the frequency-domain and dynamic characteristics of audio program, and uses this as the basis for a highly developed large scale multi-band compression process.”

To this end the advice is it can do great things but needs careful use and as so often in my workflow, time is tight, so I moved onto the next suggestion.

Bias Repli-Q from their Master Perfection Suite.

As it happened, I already had Master Perfection Suite on my computer, which was even better news! However if you aren’t as fortunate, you can download a free 14 day trail from Bias, all be it the complete Master Perfection Suite which also includes 5 other applications and comes in VST, AU and RTAS plug-ins.

In part 2 I will show you how I used it and whether it delivered the goods or not.

Would you like to listen to some of my handiwork?

BBC Radio 4 are repeating a programme “The Greed Imperative” I worked on with Rosemary Foxcroft first broadcast on 23rd May 2010. The repeat goes out on Monday 28th June 2010 at 11am.

Having worked in the City before becoming an academic and a nun, Dr Catherine Cowley is well acquainted with the temptations and the financial risks that city workers face each day. Dr Cowley questions whether money is the only motivation for those who work in the City and discusses whether greed is in fact a necessary and vital dynamic behind a successful economy.
Is greed linked to the endless growth demanded by our capitalist society? Dr Edward Skidelsky, lecturer in Philosophy at Exeter University, says that the economists in the past assumed that growth was a process with an end, and once that end came, people would enjoy the fruits of wealth. And as Karl Marx put it, “we’d hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon and discuss poetry in the evening”.
Although the finance sector at the moment is being characterised as a hotbed of greed, would any of us, given the opportunity and the circumstances, act any differently? Are we focusing on bankers’ greed so we don’t have to look at our own?

Do catch it if you can otherwise catch it on iPlayer next week.

VPre voice recording plug-in review part 5

Here is part 1, part 2, part 3 and part 4 of this review.

The final section in this series reviewing VPre is the De-esser section and drawing together my conclusions on VPre.

Again here is VPre’s tutorial on this section….

Removing Sibilance with VPre’s De-esser from Bennie Cook on Vimeo.

My comments

It is very nice to have a de-esser in VPre and it is what I describe as a proper de-esser in that it is a band split de-esser that will leave the low band unprocessed and only compress the HF component of the signal where as some simpler de-essers will compress the wide band signal. Also the monitoring options of being able to listen to the low and high bands separately makes it so much easier to set up to just get the sibilance and nothing more.

Overall conclusions

This is an excellent dynamics package that has clearly been designed for speech. The range of controls has been pitched just right between too complex and not enough control. The support from the web site is stunning especially for a new product with tutorials and an excellent FAQ already in place. I am pleased that the guys at VPre are looking into my comments about the metering displays and I look forward to the next version to see how they have achieved this. My final point is I think the price point at £299 is just a little high although to be fair to get all these features you would have to buy quite a few different plug-ins.

VPre voice recording plug-in review part 4

Here is part 1, part 2 and part 3 of this review.

Metering


Unusually for a dynamics plug-in VPre contains a comprehensive metering section including a new type of meter that they describe in this tutorial…

Setting an Input Level with VPre’s LDPM Voice Meter from Bennie Cook on Vimeo.

My Comments

I remain to be convinced on how the LDPM meter with its slow attack and release can display the true digital peaks but it is easy on the eye.

I asked VPre about this and this is what they said…

The LDPM works by lagging behind the signal by a few ms. It remembers the highest digital peak measured during its rise time and doesn’t release until the needle has reached that peak. So it does show true digital peaks, albeit a fraction of a second after they happen. In practise the delay is normally too small to be noticeable to the user.

However the VU meter display style confuses me because the LDPM isn’t a VU meter.  It looks like a VU meter but the ballistics can’t be the same as a VU meter, which is designed to be a volume (loudness) meter and not a peak display meter. I understand that VPre are now looking into making the LDPM look different to both the VU and PPM metering.

I have to say though as a UK broadcast engineer it is very nice to see a BBC or EBU PPM meter as one of the metering options but for me needle meters on screens don’t work. The needle appears to flicker. I would like to see horizontal and vertical bargraph metering as ZPlane’s PPMulator has as these are much kinder on the eye when viewing on a screen. I understand I am not the only one to say this and VPre are looking into adding bargraph metering as an option in future versions.

More on VPre in subsequent posts – next the De-esser section and my conclusion.

Video problems on Pro Tools 8.0.3 update with release of 8.0.4

Following my posts on the problems with Canopus boxes and Pro Tools 8.0.3 here, here and here as well as the jerky video problems I have posted on and the video compendium I posted about here and here, there has been another interesting post on the Pro Tools 8.0.3 Big Bug thread on the Digidesign User Conference

‘redj’ posted after the 8.0.4 release…

Thanks Avid for the update ! But thereʼs already a mistake…

For me, this bug happened by two ways :
The first one is now resolved (opening a session).
But the second one is not : when I remove video from firewire (deselect Video Out Firewire) PT crash ! But only if video track is offline. If video track is online, it works. Strange. Does anyone can confirm this bug ?

‘TommyT’ confirmed it…

Damn,,, you’re right, Bug confirmed here…
Guess we should change the Thread name to 8.03 Big Bug & 8.04 Smaller Bug :) ….

DigiTechSupt officially confirmed the ‘small bug’ and the work round…

Ok, thanks for the report – we’ve been able to repro this and are looking into a fix. Not sure whose end it’s on yet – us or Apple, but we should be able to determine that shortly and I’ll reply when I know more. For now make sure to keep the video online when enabling/disabling video out FireWire (stating the obvious, yes..!).
Avid Audio Tech Support



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