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Neyrinck Or Minnetonka for Dolby E Encoding/Decoding

Found this thread on the Digidesign User Conference recently. Laki asked…

Looking at getting one of these and offloading my hardware boxes. Anybody care to weigh in on which to buy? The Neyrinck or Minnetonka version.

Mike Aiton posted…

Just a thought, but if you have the Dolby Audio Tool blue box, dont’t let go yet. The problem that I see with the software encode/decode solutions is that you can’t listen to your downmix with the metadata that you are encoding with. In the Uk on the Sky plaform, most viewers hear the downmixed 5.1 to 2.0 (as they don’t have a 5.1 decoder) so it is vital to be able to hear this. The network doesn’t transmit the LtRt that you sweated cobs over and loving put in your second programe audio on ch 7&8.. That said, I have passed this observation to Paul Neyrinck and he is “smarter than the average bear”, so I am sure a solution will be forth comming.

quadraphonics added…

I have tried both the Minnetonka and the Neyrinck software Dolby-E solutions, after using the hardware for a while and ended up purchasing the Neyrinck software. It was exceptionally easy to work with and the plug in (both encoder and decoder) worked just like the hardware – just faster. We have done well over 100 shows since we got this software. If you have any questions about how it performed in our workflow, I would be more than happy to help.

laki replied…

Thanks Randall! Tried both demos and came to the same conclusion.

More on Source Zip from Source Elements

On my first post Mick asked…

Anyone used this? How about sound quality degeneration due to compression?

Well Mike Aiton has posted this on the DUC here

I had been using file chute (on recommendation from Drew) to send my clients files, with some good success.

Those jolly nice people at Source Elements have just released Source Zip which is a fab new utility for ziping sessions. It retains all meta data and gives you several options on file compression, mp4 lossy or apple lossless. The Apple lossless is MUCH more efficient than the apple right click archive utilty. The MP4 versions get crazy small (trying to sound American here and work brilliantly for remote monitoring when recording with Source Connect and controlling both sessions from one end.

The result is a self extracting file – so no software for the remote end.
Highly recommended – a no brainer for $48

Mick, I hope that answers your question.

NAAM 2009 comment

There does seem to be very little to come out of NAAM 2009 for the Pro Tools user and even less of interest for the media Pro Tools user.

Scott Church has done a round up on his blog and highlights some new keyboards from M-Audio, the new Waves Maserati Collection, and the new Ableton Live 8. The keyboards and Ableton could only be treated as related products and the Waves plug-ins are specialist and ‘different’.

I have been aware that McDSP have announced a Retro Pack bundle of plug-ins and the only post related thing to come from this show as far as I can see is a new product from a new company set up by Joe Bull who was a leading light in Sadie before they collapsed. Joe’s new company called JoeCo has released The Blackbox Recorder that is capable of recording 24 tracks of 24bit/96kHz audio directly to yourUSB2 drive.



I wonder if all of this is a minor blip or a sign of development slowing up?

Waves User Experience Survey

Waves emailed me as a customer and asked if I would complete their User Experience Survey by saying….

“In order to better serve you, Waves would like to learn more about your user experience. By completing a short survey, you can help us better understand and meet your needs as a user of our audio technologies. We truly appreciate your input and value your participation.”

However I found the questions too restrictive and led me to give them the answers they wanted to hear rather than find out what I thought. I appreciate that surveys are very hard to construct but the options for answers were too black and white.

Ilok is the best system out there but it isn’t perfect. I do find it a pain to have dongles attached to my computer but the portability of assets is very convenient. Ideally I would prefer to be able to choose either hard disk authorisation or iLok, which Waves took away. This is because I prefer not to have an iLok attached to my laptop based system as I have to carry a very valuable iLok around with me and then it is sticking out of my computer which uses up one of the USB sockets. Yes I can use a hub, but that is yet another thing to carry about with me, all of which makes a portable system progressively less portable.

Complete Production Kit Comments

There have been a number of comments and user feedback on Digidesign’s new Complete Production Toolkit on the Digi User Conference. It doesn’t seem to be the complete solution just yet but it does offer a very cost effective solution for a post friendly system based around Pro tools LE.



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